Because his proposed solution appears to be a fantasy, its effect would be to stop vaccinations completely and replace them with nothing. That surgeon is otherwise known as David Gorski. Veronica Hackethal MD, MSc, What are these innate non-specific antibodies he is talking about? We see, or we have seen, that they defined a pandemic first in 2000, a pandemic was very serious very dangerous with many people getting very ill and dying. The next world leader, the leader of the one world religion will be the beast / the antichrist, who will have all of the lying signs and wonders of the dragon (Satan). God will judge the wicked, and Jesus upon his second coming will destroy them with the Word of God. “Did you know that 78.4% of quoted statistics are pulled from the speaker’s nether regions.”, Statistics are so hard to nail down. Researchers get around that issue by using adenoviruses that humans are unlikely to have encountered before. (He bases this on the observation that in those infected with COVID-19 asymptomatically S-specific Ab levels decline faster than in those with symptomatic infections.) He claims that the vaccines will destroy our bodies’ ability to use our innate immune system (which produces, among other things, non-specific cells capable of clearing a wide variety of infectious material from the body) to fight off the variants vaccines allegedly could not. Even the inventor of the PCR test, Kary Mullis, said that with enough amplification cycles the test can find pretty much anything. The mRNA is not designed to stick around. Could Orac or anyone with a strong research/science background explain if this vaccine can do this because I feel like everyone is trying to really scare me. Dr. Offit and Vanden Bossche don’t look anything alike. Bossche sounds a lot to me like Dr. Hooman Noorchashm, the surgeon-immunologist who came up with an idée fixe that vaccinating those who’ve had COVID-19 or have subclinical cases of COVID-19 will be very dangerous and cause cardiovascular events and death. Geert Vanden Bossche, DVM, PhD virology, independent seasoned vaccine researcher, previous SPO at Everything I know about pandemics comes from playing two full seasons of the board game Pandemic: Legacy, and even I can spot the holes in Bossche’s logic big enough to drive a semi-truck through. The technology enables the development of universal vaccines educating the host immune system to redirect immune targeting away from canonical antigens to a widely divergent spectrum of vitally vulnerable pathogen-derived ‘self-mimicking’ antigens, irrespective of MHC polymorphism. Even the ‘experts’ are starting to concede that covid vaccination alone won’t save us. “The eyes are useless when the mind is blind.”, I might have believed your assertion that Geert Vanden Bossche is not an antivaccine conspiracy theorist, but instead, rather like Dr. Hooman Norchashm, is actually someone who’s just become so enamored of his idée fixe that he’s unknowingly repeating antivaccine tropes to support it; that is, until you included Andrew Wakefield with Vanden Bossche as also not being an antivax conspiracy theorist. Vaccination passports are coming and no one blinks an eyelid. However, Bigtree, Coleman and others don’t point out any of the red flags. Whether he is antivaccine or not, he is parroting an old antivaccine trope. All white males look the same. They ARE trying to scare you: some don’t grasp the basic information and others deliberately distort it in order to either sell you products or faulty ideas thus elevating their own “in the know” profile. As I go through Dr. Vanden Bossche’s open letter, I’ll point out the similarities, while also noting differences where they occur. Like Dr. Noorchashm, Dr. Vanden Bossche has sounded his “warning” to various health authorities. Vanden Bossche’s scientific argument in broad terms is that the current COVID-19 vaccines, through a mechanism analogous to antibiotic resistance, will create mutant variants of the virus that escape the protection of those vaccines. Experts and politicians have remained silent while obviously still eager to talk about relaxing infection prevention rules and ‘springtime freedom’. It’s the same platform used in the company’s Ebola virus vaccine (which is approved in Europe) and its investigational Zika, RSV, and HIV vaccines. Mutation occurs because of errors in genome replication. My statements are based on nothing else but science. Ironically, the arguments Vanden Bossche is making would result in exactly the scenario he is arguing we should avoid. They do not. Look! © 1995 - 2021 by Snopes Media Group Inc. How long can one ignore the problem when there is at present massive evidence that viral immune escape is now threatening humanity? While Dr. Vanden Bossche’s rhetoric and behavior remind me strongly of Dr. Noorchashm, the content of his letter reminds me of Andrew Wakefield’s warning about the MMR vaccine. “Unless I am scientifically proven wrong”. I recommend anyone to look at Yuri Bezmenov lectures on the four stages of Ideological Subversion. It’s at this point, though, that Dr. Vanden Bossche throws in a twist specific to COVID-19 in which he argues that undertaking a mass vaccination campaign during a pandemic is dangerous. (or simplifying the names), Constitutively-produced, all-purpose IgMs. You would see them in the streets, you would see them everywhere and you would see the whole population being endangered. But, he said, Vanden Bossche’s arguments “take a little bit of truth and then add a whole lot of misrepresentation.”. Finally, just because Vanden Bossche might come across as sincere (or might even actually be sincere) doesn’t mean that his conflict of interest isn’t real. Did you know that 78.4% of quoted statistics are pulled from the speaker’s nether regions. It has been observed that over time Marek’s disease virus has become more virulent, and this has been attributed classically to a leaky vaccine effect. During the Ebola outbreaks in West Africa and the Democratic Republic of the Congo, two adenoviral vector vaccines were quickly developed and deployed. Five’ll get you 10 that your wife is banging someone on the side, Gerg, Narad, that’s shocking news! He asserts that his statements “are based on nothing else but science.” While Vanden Bossche’s ideas may be rooted in actual scientific concepts, his argument quite explicitly relies on sweeping assumptions. I’m ready to get the vax, knowing there could be some very unpleasant side effects. https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/03/26/geert-vanden-bossche/?utm_source=agorapulse&utm_campaign=1p&fbclid=IwAR0ruhYAivbs0OhVfCX66ZJJtFTIGraPazTRBez1BQWmEzQbdi_-tRfZ-t4, […] already discussed this one in detail too. Essentially scientists back then were agreeing with Bossche that the mutation pressure rises when the virus had less places to go. We can hardly say we didn’t know – or were not warned. Geert has 11 jobs listed on their profile. There’s even grift likely involved! “self-administered”. No, I don’t remember that being the dominant argument. Unlike Dr. Noorchashm’s publications, which were only fitfully amplified by RFK Jr., Dr. Vanden Bossche’s open letter has gone viral and is being spread on antivaccine social media everywhere as “slam dunk” evidence that COVID-19 vaccines will cause a global catastrophe by selecting for the evolution of highly transmissible and deadly variants of COVID-19 that will escape immunity due to vaccines. I think that grifters recognize fellow grifters, and Frei recognized that Dr. Vanden Bossche is stoking fear of existing COVID-19 vaccines to produce a sales rationale for his own NK-based vaccine, just as Andrew Wakefield stoked fear of the MMR in order to support his own measles vaccine. The situation is just too urgent! Special Reports > Exclusives Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche is making a fundamental and dangerous logical error in his argument that mass COVID-19 vaccination should be stopped. His Open Letter, Video Interview and High-Profile Supporters Rosemary Frei, via her website. It would, in some sense, have been better if it was a bioweapon because they are programmed not to go off every which way willy nilly. I MUST remember to read all the replies before I response. Indeed, Chris, as an antivaxxer, even I marvel at how relentless we are. Mutations occur during viral transmission and in the bodies of unvaccinated people. Science can be hard; and its motivations, processes, and self-corrections often appear opaque and counterintuitive to outsiders trying to make sense of an ever more complex and specialized, fast-moving world. There is always concern that a virus or bacteria can mutate to a form such that the antibodies produced by a vaccine against it no longer bind to it, so that the vaccine-induced immune response no longer kills or neutralizes the pathogen. Mass vaccination programs, he claims, are “turning vaccinees into asymptomatic carriers” who can unknowingly spread these more dangerous strains by “shedding infectious variants.” However, increasingly clear evidence exists that the current COVID-19 vaccines reduce transmission, as well as the amount of viral material available for shedding, even in asymptomatic cases. The resulting type of immune response is unprecedented and licenses the host immune system to readily eliminate infection or to cure disease across a broad range of unrelated pathogens and/ or mammalian species. Oops! Vanden Bossche asserts that COVID-19 vaccines pose a unique risk of producing dangerous variants in part because people who are vaccinated will be spreading the mutations while asymptomatic. So this can be done fairly fast, as vaccines go. On March 6, 2021, a Belgian veterinarian named Geert Vanden Bossche published an open letter “to all authorities, scientists and experts around the world” asserting that, in his expert analysis, the current global COVID-19 vaccination program will “wipe out large parts of our human population.” The way to avoid this purported calamity, Vanden Bossche asserts, is for scientists to pay more attention to his own invention — a “universal vaccine” that uses the body’s innate immune system to kill SARS-CoV-2. A. I think he’s an aspiring or wanna be Wakefield. Yet, even with serial flu vaccination we are finding perils with reduced effectiveness. There you have it, the lone scientific maverick who is the only one willing to speak out about against a “horror” being perpetrated by conventional medicine and science that “they” don’t want you to know about or discuss, a horror that’s so “urgent” that he must speak now. The classic example of a leaky vaccine is actually the one for Marek’s disease, caused by a herpesvirus that infects chicken and causes lymphoma among other illnesses. There is a long time lag between “peak viral load” and death in COVID-19. So, that worry is done. HIV/AIDS Vaccine: Why Don’t We Have One After 37 Years? After all, if a human vaccine lets deadlier versions of a disease flourish, that is all the more reason to be protected from those deadly strains. Which should have been ignored if it was not for him grandstanding to the press. So far, phase III trials of adenoviral vector COVID-19 vaccines in humans bear this out. Not exactly. This is what COVID-19 vaccines do, and their ability to reduce the opportunities for the virus to mutate is why rapid vaccination is imperative. "A statement of fact cannot be insolent." Wonder why these two companies have not responded to my emails: https://www.covidtruths.co.uk/2021/03/sars-cov-2-antigen-swab-test-fraud/, Do not be deceived. Or maybe you were trying to pull a gotcha. Even if it were evolving resistance, once again, the answer would be to reformulate the vaccine in order to include the altered antigens, the same conclusion made when considering the possibility that B. pertussis was evolving resistance or that evolutionary drift was leading to the predominance of strains not covered by the vaccine. Dr. Vanden Bossche is using an eerily similar argument about COVID-19 vaccines and SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes COVID-19, to the one used by Wakefield about MMR vaccine and measles. You can read the links if you want to know more, but the short version is that the acellular pertussis vaccine works, but that its immunity wanes; this can be corrected with additional booster shots. All you need is the sequence of the variants, and then you can design a new mRNA to replace or be added to the old mRNA in the formulation. Secondly, I personally respond better to direct factual and scientific arguments and impute obfuscation or over-emotionalism to authors who attack and ridicule someone who is wrong. He is saying covid infects cells at the mucous layer where the immune system doesn’t naturally operate, and from there they can easily jump into the bloodstream and infect ordinary cells. Besides what Orac wrote that viruses are ALWAYS mutating, especially RNA viruses, there is now clear documentation that people who have been infected with COVID have been reinfected, though almost all cases were mild because immune system primed for COVID, so they would shed some viruses. — the virus, what is? In a strange way, sometimes I really do feel sorry for provaxxers. Precisely because adenoviruses are so common, one problem with using them in vaccines is that people may already have antibodies to them, overwhelming them before they can do their assigned work. https://respectfulinsolence.com/2020/11/30/casedemic-the-latest-covid-19-conspiracy-theory/, As for your claim that H1N1 being the “mildest flu ever,” all I can say is: I want some of whatever you’ve been smoking.. If the virus manages to do so, it can benefit from the (momentarily) suppressed innate immunity, thereby causing disease in an increasing number of these subjects and ensuring its own propagation. I noted then that there was no evidence that mass vaccination with MMR had produced variants of the measles vaccine resistant to the immunity produced by the vaccine, just as I note now that there is as yet no evidence that SARS-CoV-2 variants are resistant to the immunity produced by current COVID-19 vaccines. If COVID has deceived you, the next great deception will be the anti christ leader yet future, but these world leaders and non govenrmental organisations are using the hoax of climate change to reduce the population because they think that they are Gods who can buy anyone they want, and destroy whoever they want. However, this type of prophylactic vaccines are completely inappropriate, and even highly dangerous, when used in mass vaccination campaigns during a viral pandemic. It’s a common argument among antivaxxers that the reason we’re seeing more cases of pertussis in people who have been vaccinated against it is because pertussis is either “evolving resistance,” or because it is shifting to a different strain not covered by the vaccine.
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